Previously:
#1 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1213916710/
#2 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1250275007/
#3 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1292544745/
#4 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1315193920/
#5 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1326391378/
#6 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1333279425/
#7 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1340196069/
#8 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1346800288/
#9 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1353182673/
#10 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1360549149/
#11 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1367260033/
#11.5 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1367260120/
#12 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1372849946/-255,257-
#13 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1368127055/
#14 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1395672319/
#15 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1409746601/
#16 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1420075161/
#17 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1430947686/
#18 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1440133389/
#19 http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1447380051/
Having had some time to reflect on it in its recent hiatus, I've come to accept that yes, my beloved Grinding Noises thread has somewhat jumped the shark. I had consciously tried to make the second iteration more interesting by making the setting larger and less linear, introducing more overarching quests or goals, and generally making things a bit more grim and dark, but sadly, though it certainly had its moments, the second iteration didn't really come together as I had hoped. Nonetheless, I don't regret trying; I'm reminded of that quote from somewhere or other that it's better to aim high and fail than to aim low and succeed.
Seeing as the thread has recently been bumped, it does rather prompt me to make a decision on whether to continue or not - and, though it's a shame, I'm not sure I really want to carry on in the same direction it was going before. That said, it would be an even greater shame to leave it in its current incomplete state, so if those of you reading this are willing to post in it, I would quite like to bring the story to a finish (before the current thread hits 999) in a rather irreverent over the top silly sort of way. How do the rest of you feel about the idea?
>>850
Can you sum it up for us here? I've always been too intimidated to get involved in Grinding Noises.
>>803 this is really not the right thing to tell someone who's about to give up on their life.
>>852
Don't give up! You still have a chance! Look at all the love there is! You are loved! And you can love! Because you're a human!
I'm contrarian. Is that the right word? As much as possible, I try to disagree.
>>850
I say bring it to an end by 999 but not right away... String it out over multiple updates! And I would love if you started a new thread afterward...
Also, I don't think your thread jumped the shark, it just got too complex for even the biggest fans (such as myself) to keep track of...maybe be a little less cryptic and slightly more hand-holdy next time?
Yesterday I went to see a friend. It was a mistake, I should've played more Dark Souls.
>>856
Life's tough kid! Get over it! There are kids starving in africa! You're just being an attention whore! Nobody cares about you anyways! I wish you would kill yourself and stop being a pussy!
I beleive this is what therapists are trained to tell their suicidal patients. I'm sure it must be effective.
>>856 If they were standing in front of a tall cliff or bridge, I would play "Jump" by Van Halen.
What's wrong with suicidal people? I just don't understand them. Is it because they are babies? People say that I'm a really tough guy (not my words), so it's hard for me to understand weak stupid people. I know this is offensive to say, but I think they should just kill themselves. Before you call me merciless, just realize I'm only using logic here. If they do not want to live, then they should just kill themselves. I know it might be hard for stupid people to understand, but it's quite simple actually. And don't try to give me excuses for stopping them. You're just overcomplicating a simple matter (which I just proved was simple).
>>850 As long as it's not "rocks fall, everyone dies" I'd support it.
Well, you gotta buy it to cum in it.
>>862
Just shut up, you're making yourself look like an idiot. It doesn't matter what you want to be true. Life's hard, and your just going to have to accept that. Just because something offends you, doesn't make it wrong. If you tell me something offensive I was saying was wrong, then you're just censoring the truth. You're brainwashed by society. You know that I'm right about killing yourself. You just want it to not be true because you're offended. You're just a big baby.
>>860
It's not usually the first thing you should think of, you know those people have families or something
I don't know if they're playing along or if they thinks I'm serious. Either way, I'm too tired to say anything. Maybe tomorrow.
A secret Underground Railroad of dad jokes.
hi, i'm internet bully.
you are smellly!!!!!! HOHOHOHOHO
I have ante up sounding in my head and it really makes me feel so pumped!
>>862
Kant would only say it's inmoral, but so is every irrational and heteronomous thing ever. Kant doesn't present his ethical system on terms of good and bad.
>>866
Everyone knows that kant's philosophy is outdated and overly complicated. Keep crying about kant, you baby head.
>>867
Look, I don't care about political correctness. I don't care about you or your family. Emotions only get in the way of science and reason. It only logically makes sense that suicidal people should kill themselves. It would make everyone happier. So don't give me the this bullshit about how it would hurt the person's friends, family, and community (poopoo).
>>872
This is pretty much what I'm trying to say.
>>860 I've thought something like this for quite a while but it's hard to put it into words without sounding like an edgy tryhard. But I think we need to make a distinction between true and reasonable reasons for suicide and dumb teenager shit. If everyone just went and killed themselves every time suicide crossed their mind then there'd be no one left alive.
>>874
I think a lot of programs for assisted suicide are pretty much this. They require approval from a psychologist in order to be allowed to commit suicide. Although, I think you have to have a severe illness that isn't mental. I don't really know that much about it though, so I'm probably not explaining it right.
>>841
It sucks, when I find an inconsistency in my dream, it quickly reconfigures itself so it turns out I was playing TV or watching Youtube or something so that it makes sense again and I can't quite lucid dream but only criticize how non-sensical my own dreams are from a window.
It's really wierd.
I was trying to make an obvious joke, but I guess I'm doing a bad job because now it's just trolling.
God damn it, this fever just won't go.
>>883
Y-You've got to believe me! If you don't... I'm not sure who'll I'll turn to...
>>867
Families disgust me.
As for parents, only a fucking idiot would not realise that it's extremely selfish to bring another life into the world for one's own amusement and expect them to enjoy being alive. People who suicide have the right, as far as their parents are concerned. With the exception of children, as for the rest of the constituents of 'family', anyone not directly related can fuck right off because their relationship to the suicidal person is literally coincidence.
As for children, the parent has an obligation to take care of them until they are adults, that is my only general exception.
>>885
Alright you go ahead and enjoy believing all that,as well as twisting my point into whatever fresh pasta you just cooked up
I can't be bothered explaining how twisted that seems
>>876
Are you retarded? I've been arguing that Kant was wrong this whole time. I guess my words were too complicated for you. Do you poop yourself as well, big baby?
>>885
I'm glad I've found someone who's smart enough to actually understand what I'm saying. Parents are stupid. Emotional bonds only hold back reason and science. Parents aren't necessary. What? Do you need your mommy's permission to kill yourself? Just use your own brain, and think about it for a second. It's only logical that a suicidal person should kill themselves. Sorry if that offends you (I'm not actually sorry by the way). And don't give me that bullshit about maybe they'll change their minds later. If they're going to be such a big baby, then nobody wants them anyways. I don't think any parent would actually want a child who tried to kill themselves. The only reason why anyone would ever be suicidal is because they're a weak baby. If more weak people killed themselves, we would only have strong and smart people like me. That's just basic evolution 101, poop for brains.
>>886
I'm sorry if your brain is too small. I've already logically proved that suicide is good (poopers). I don't care if it's not politically correct.
>>886
No, it's fine, I kinda posted it because I wanted someone to tell me it is twisted. I can't tell you how alienating it is to carry thoughts like this in my head at all times and never tell anyone.
Autism
>>888
I know what you mean. I used to have tons of twisted thoughts. It wasn't until I opened up to a counselor that I had a voice of reason to grab on to.
>>889
Honestly yes. I think I have it and it sucks. I try to act normal because I really like human social interaction but people don't make any fucking sense and it drives me bonkers.
That being said, I'm not sure if I'd rather I don't have it. At least I see the contradiction in e.g. claiming strong family ties and also putting one's grandparent(s) in a elderly home.
>>887
Emotional bonds don't only hold back reason and science. Without humans there is no science, and emotional bonds make humans happier and more productive. Still, if someone is in unbearable physical or psychological pain, I think they have a moral right to end their life.
>>888
Sorry but whatever we were arguing has been confused thanks to the ever so valiant efforts of >>887
You shouldn't feel bad for believing in what you do, although I find it odd that you base the argument for not caring about your friends, because you only made them on coincidence, when everything else just came from a coincidence either way
>>892
In case you don't know, >>860,864,873,887 are all the same poster.
>>893
Good for that person then, I just wish they would post their garbage somewhere else.
Not that I disagree with all aspects of it,but it was just very painful to read.I could find numerous people who share that viewpoint and not articulate themselves like a 13 year old who just found /pol/ or /b/
>>891
Yeah, if a person is going to be in permanent, unbearable, mental or physical pain, then I think they should have the right to assisted suicide. I think the problem arises when there are large amounts of people who see suicide as a first response to usually temporary problems in the long run.
I don't get off by tricking people. I tried my hardest to be clear about what I was doing, but in the end, I was just being stupid. Atleast I've learned not to do that again.
I'd like for it to stop here. We only have another 101 posts together until the whole thing is over. Let's become our future and make posts we'll be proud to have made. I love you.
Am I talking to you? You'll never know.
When will I stop being high?
Don't give up! You still have a chance! There are endless possibilities! Everywhere you look is a chance for happiness and love!
>>902
If you're making a joke, it's been made. Please stop posting this shallow, Hallmark-esque stuff.
>>903
There's nothing wrong with you! We'll love you no matter who you become! There's nothing wrong with loving one another! Everything is just the way it's supposed to be!
>>904
Many people find this sort of speech offensive, it's a well known phenomenon among religious speakers, motivational speakers, rehabilitation treatment centers, etc. Most of the time, people articulate that offense along the lines of “How dare you say everything is the way it's supposed to be - don't you know how I've suffered?”. I think, however, that a deeper frustration comes from the way this speech trivializes potential future action. Saying something like “Every failure was just a stepping stone on the path to success” implies that whenever something positive does happen, it's inevitable, therefore whoever works hard to achieve success has wasted their time. Since most people have worked at something, being told that their work was irrelevant is quite irritating. The suffering person is not only angry because their suffering are spoken of as trivial, but because their response to their circumstances is said to be ‘intended’: “Remember all that pain you went through when your wife and kids died? I am unimpressed by how difficult it was for you to return to normal life, instead I approve of all your sleepless nights. I am the one who says how you are supposed to respond to suffering. I am your superior, signing off on your work.”
Furthermore, people do fail. Everyone has direct personal experiences that testify to this. Hearing, then, that every path leads to success tells the listener “Remember that time you failed? Since that was just a stepping stone to success, and since you didn't end up succeeding, you must have given up, you lazy slacker.” So on the one hand, you're telling everyone that anything they do is meaningless, since happiness is always just around the corner. On the other hand, you're telling everyone that whenever happiness hasn't materialized, that they must have fucked something up: that happiness was nearby, so how on Earth could you have possibly missed it?
There are also a bunch of weird questions that get raised. If everything is wonderful and everyone always becomes happy in the end, why do you even have to say these things? If you love someone, why don't they know it yet? Or if love is so meaningless that someone can be loved without their life being affected, why should someone care that they are loved? Why does everyone “still have a chance” if success and happiness are inevitable? If you have such knowledge that you audit the entirety of existence and say it is “the way it's supposed to be”, and if you somehow have an interest in my life, why are you speaking in such unhelpful vagaries?
The more I consider these sort of ‘motivational’ statements, the more I wonder why anyone makes them.
>>905
Let go of the past! Don't worry about your future! Everyone is here to support you! Love is here and will always be here!
Let me just admit it. Most of these posts for the past couple of days have been me replying to myself.
>>907
No they aren't! I know that because most of these posts have been me replying to myself!
> I've been arguing that Kant was wrong this whole time.
Whereas I am not? I'm just saying that immoral is not quite the same as bad, not according to Kant. It's a wrong interpretation of Kantian ethics.
That being said, every modern philospher ever who just as much as dabbles in ethics from John Rawls to your mom borrow quite a whole lot from Kant. You'd be hard pressed to find an ethics scholar who doesn't use Kant as a base. It's that important, and that you don't realize it doesn't really make you dumb, but it definitely makes you ill-informed.
All in all, suicide is always all the time an irrational thing to do, full stop. That we aren't merely rational beings and do, and say things that aren't rational but we try to justify anyway because of whatever hypothetical context we are in is a topic for another day, kids!
>>912,913,914
Please don't. It's not funny anymore.
Boggy di Looti
If two lesbians get drunk and have sex, which one is the rapist?
Leave originality for the birds.
smartass jew Lincoln
Let me be straight forward with you
I've seen more parodies of talk shows than talk shows.
>>905 agreed totally.
I think a part of the motivation behind these kinds of "inspirational" statements is that the speakers themselves are often trying to convince themselves that everything's all right. Everyone has at least a few insecurities or fears for the future, and it's nice to think that there's some kind of power in the universe or logic that's protecting us or guiding us down a path. I've known a few people who were outwardly very positive and said shit like this but were inwardly miserable/depressed/anxious, and I think that's not an uncommon thing.
All right, it's become abundantly clear that I'm actually quite ill and borderline bedridden, so I'm afraid there aren't going to be any Grinding Noises updates any time soon. It'll be back some day, I swear.
I've studied people like you thoroughly in college. Let me give you my expert evaluation of you. Basically, you're broken. Your motivations were not what you thought they were. You happiness is an illusion. And your statements show that you can't accept reality. The only treatment I can prescribe is to stop what you're doing and start doing what I'm doing.
that was doubleplus unsexy verging crimewank
doubleplus unsexy verging crimewank
Poe's law
Look at the sky!
Buggerel
Hmm... my client's usually responded by now...
I would describe it as "aggressively mofumofu".
The greens overestimate their bargaining power
save me from myself
cabbage rolls
It's good to be alive.
I just got a pussy job. That's where a girl uses her vagina to jerk you off.
there's so much scam and so many fools and my friends are some
Please stop emailing me.
>>942
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What did I do to deserve this?
Why do people give that much of a shit about the new Ghostbusters movie or whether does it reveres genders or whatever. Ghostbusters is not that great of a franchise. It could feature trained monkeys or be made entirely in CGI and I still wouldn't give a fuck either way.
It's harder to sign into my steam account then my bank.
Death is too mysterious though!